Thai military service for dual citizens

Chris Larkin

Long time resident of Bangkok. Married, three daughters. Managing director of CLC Asia (www.clc-asia.com). Lots of interesting knowledge and experience built up over time which I hope can be of use to people.

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14 Responses

  1. Neil says:

    Hi, Please could you help answer a question. i am married to a Thai and we have a eight year old son who was born in England. My wife wants to apply for a Thai passport for him, does this mean at the age of twenty he could be called up for Thai national service? Many thanks Neil.

    • Chris Larkin says:

      Hi Neil,

      It will be fine for him to get the passport for visits etc.

      He won’t be called up at 20 so long as he isn’t registered on a house registration which is how the military know to send the call up letters. Even if he was, so long as he remained resident outside of Thailand between ages 20 and 30 then he would have a legitimate excuse for not reporting for the draft day.

      Hopefully this is useful.

  2. Vittawat Bunton says:

    Hi,
    Can you help further explain the exemptions for the Thai Military Draft for doing an overseas military services. I am a Dual National Passport Holder (Thai/British), both of my parent are Thai and I have been living in the UK for over 10 years now. I am currently 21 years old and had moved here since I was quite young. However, when I was 15, I went back to Thailand for a family visit and my parent registered me up for a Thai ID card (I’ve heard that it would put my name up for them to call me in for the draft).

    The thing is, if I were to apply for the UK arm force (I planned to when I turn 23), which will be 2 years of training and 3 years of commitment service. (So I will be 28 years old when I came out of the UK army). Will I still need to go back to Thailand do their military draft and will I lose any benefit/right of normal Thai Citizen would have if I didn’t do the draft.

    This would be very much appreciated if you could help me out.
    Thanks,
    Vit

    • Chris Larkin says:

      Hi Vit,

      As you saw in the article, having done foreign military service does appear to count towards lessening your obligation for Thai military service, but the mechanisms for having this recognized officially are unknown.

      Given you are overseas, effectively speaking, reporting is impossible so as long as you remain overseas then there is little that they can do, draft wise.

      The easiest strategy for you will be simply to effectively live outside of Thailand until 1st of January in the year you turn 30, and then if you need to, report at that point as you’ll officially be too old, and let off with a small fine (max equivalent to about 10 pounds). Short visits back to Thailand before then won’t be an issue, but you should probably avoid trying to update your Thai ID card before your 30th birthday, just in case.

      Overall, you won’t lose any rights and benefits of a Thai citizen, though renewing your Thai passport may be problematic without a valid (ie up to date) ID card. But given your plans, that shouldn’t really be a worry.

      All the best with it.

  3. Naphat says:

    Hi Chris, I have just been granted Thai citizenship last week as a dependent to my father’s application(main applicant via naturalisation). However, I am turning 21 this coming month, and I have been contacted to process my tahbien and other relevant documents. In addition, the district office mentioned that I have to register for conscription. I am wondering if I have to go through the conscription draft?
    Thank you very much Chris!

    • Chris Larkin says:

      Hi Naphat,

      Firstly, congrats to you and your father on your naturalization! I’m sure you must be relieved. May I ask, were you both PR’s before this, or was it just your father.

      With respect to your question, naturalized citizens are not required to do conscription, so I’d suggest to them they double check the rules on this.

      Regards
      Chris

      • Naphat says:

        Hi Chris,

        Thank you! I am very much relieved after waiting for years. And to your question, yes it was only my father that is PR’s, I was on a non-o dependent visa.

        Kind regards,
        Naphat

      • Naphat says:

        Hi Chris,

        Thank you! I certainly felt very much relieved. And yes, it was just y father that’s PR before this. I will double check with the district official in regards the conscription.

        Kind regards,
        Naphat

  4. Naphat says:

    Hi Chris,

    Thank you! I am very much relieved after waiting for years. And to your question, yes it was only my father that is PR’s, I was on a non-o dependent visa.

    Kind regards,
    Naphat

    Ps. the system doesn’t allowed me to reply to your comment

    • Chris Larkin says:

      Hi Naphat,

      No worries, thanks for letting me know, and congrats again.

      In terms of the system, all the replies have to be moderated because for every one legit message I get about 10 spam posts. So I do see them, its just your responses don’t become visible instantly.
      Cheers
      Chris

  5. Jordan says:

    Hi Chris,
    I am UK/Thai but reside in the UK since birth. When I was 16 my Thai passport expired and my mum decided to not renew it, knowingly in fear of being called up to the army. I am now 22 and would like to renew my passport. I am Thai house registered but do not carry a Thai ID therefore I can make a new passport with no issues. Although, I am wondering if I go ahead and renew it will I be required to attend the drafts and potentially serve the Thai Military?

    Thanks,
    Jordan

    • Chris Larkin says:

      Hi Jordan,

      If you are living full time in the UK and don’t intend to reside permanently in Thailand till you are 30 then you won’t have any issue.

      You can renew your passport via the embassy, but check with them to see if you’ll need your ID card, as sometimes they can insist on it.

      Are you planning to spend an extended amount of time in Thailand? If so, that changes the equation somewhat.

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