Thai military service for dual citizens

“Do I have to undertake Thai military service?” is one of the most common questions that arises for male Thai citizens born and living overseas, as well as dual citizens born in Thailand.

As a basic rule, all healthy males with Thai citizenship who are resident in Thailand are required to report to a conscription officer at age 20. The only men who don’t have to go through the conscription process are naturalised Thai males or those who have completed the territorial defense program while at school.

Undertaking conscription is still a major rite of passage for most young Thai men. Having fulfilled your obligation is important from a general legal perspective, but also important given some employers – particularly in the public sector – still require evidence of completing your obligation.

Conscription

Thai males who are registered in Thailand on the tabieen baan (house register) are normally sent initial administrative papers about their obligation at age 17. They are expected to respond to this letter in anticipation for being sent instructions for presenting themselves for the conscription lottery at 20.

The basic health requirements are as follows:

  • Be free from diseases and disabilities that can interfere with military service; and
  • Height at least 160 cm or more and a chest circumference of 76cm measured when exhaling.

Those with a suspected disease or disability contrary to military service are required to be examined at one of the 20 Army hospitals in the country between October and February in the year of being eligible for conscription.

On conscription day, eligible recruits will take part in a lottery, picking coloured ball out of a barrel. Those who choose a red ball will be drafted for 2 years. Choose a black one, and you are home free.

Registration is handled by the local recruitment officer – the Sasadee (สัสดี) located the local district office (สำนักงานเขต) where your father or mother are registered on the house book/tabieen baan (ทะเบียนบ้าน).

In 2017, a little over 100,000 twenty year-olds, joined the armed forces. Most (78%) went into the army, 14% into the Navy and 8% into the air force. Of these, 49% volunteered for Thai military service and the remainder were conscripted.

The local office will usually provide statistics on how many in that district need to be conscripted to meet the local quota. In some areas, the ranks are mainly filled with volunteers who see the military as a good employment option. As such, the actual number (and the chance of) needing to be conscripted may be low, depending on the district.

Some basic misconceptions and myths:

Before we examine the legitimate ways of de-risking your chances of being conscripted, let’s look at some misconceptions about what gets you exempted.

  • Myth 1: Dual citizen children are not eligible for conscription;
  • Myth 2: Not speaking Thai exempts you from selection;
  • Myth 3: Children who aren’t ethnically Thai aren’t eligible to be conscripted; and
  • Myth 4: Becoming a monk automatically exempts you.

Having read the rules from start to finish, there is nothing in the regulations that refer to these factors as exemptions. Don’t be caught out by rumours to the contrary!

The (lack of) Thai language one is often cited to me, however the fact is there are loads of kids from Khmer, Malay or Lao speaking regions of Thailand whose central Thai may not be terribly strong – let alone literate – but they are as eligible as a Thai male who only fluent in a European language.

Indeed, English language skills are useful to the military, particularly for intelligence related roles. Though it isn’t unknown to find those who have been exempted because of their lack of Thai speaking skills – do not rely on this as a general rule!

The ONLY impediment for Thai males with a foreign parent is that they are ineligible to become an officer in the Thai armed forces. While other areas of Thai law have mainly removed discrimination based on parent’s nationality (e.g. eligibility for being an MP), this rule remains firmly on the books of the Thai military for the time being.

Becoming a monk doesn’t automatically exempt you – a monk passing out having chosen the red ball. Image Source: Matichon Newspaper

Its also worth noting that becoming a monk doesn’t automatically exempt you. Only monks who have undertaken higher (divinity) level Buddhist education within the Mahajana sect (พระภิกษุที่มีสมณศักดิ์ชั้นเปรียญ นักบวชนิกายมหายาน) and monks and novices who have been certified by the Ministry of Education (สามเณร ภิกษุ นักบวชพุทธศาสนานิกายมหายาน ที่ได้รับการรับรองจากกระทรวงศึกษาธิการ) are automatically exempted.

As such, those serving as monks, who fall outside these categories will need to report for military conscription, and it isn’t an uncommon sight to see ordained men lining up on conscription day to see if they are chosen for Thai military service.

 

 

Legitimate exemptions from the military draft

While a good proportion of applicants see military service as a way out of poverty, or as a way to serve their nation, others have personal reasons for avoiding being conscripted for two full years right at the start of their 20’s.

Regulations thus contain some thoroughly above-board ways to avoid having to be conscripted, or at the very least, delay it. These include the following:

1) Territorial defense program

This program, known colloquially in Thai as Ror Dor (รด) is the equivalent of army ‘cadets’ in places like the UK or Australia, or the ‘ROTC’ in the US.

This is one of the main methods Thai kids use to avoid the lottery. If you are parents of young children, then selecting a high school with a ‘Ror Dor’ program might be something worth thinking about. International schools generally also offer ‘Ror Dor’ as well.

The concept is very simple. In the senior years of high school (and in some cases university), a child can sign up and participate in training during school hours a few days per month for three years. This provides an alternative form of basic training which culminates in a multi-day camp at the end of the program. After the full three-year course is completed, the students receive exemption papers for the draft at age 20.

For partial completion of Ror Dor, credit will also be given. Completing one year of Ror Dor means only having to serve full-time for one year if conscripted. Similarly, completing two years of reserve training means only doing six months of full-time training if conscripted.

For those who start, but don’t complete the Ror Dor course at high school, they are permitted to carry on with the course for 2 more years at university.

2) University/Post graduate studies

Whether in Thailand or overseas, further studies are an acceptable method of deferring your obligations to attend the lottery.

Thai embassies overseas will have Military Deferment Forms (แบบฟอร์มขอหนังสือรับรองการผ่อนผันการเกณฑ์ทหาร).

3) Volunteering after graduating from university

Following graduation, a university graduate is allowed to volunteer to join the armed forces prior to or on conscription day, and as a result only serve 6 months. This is common for many Thai families who do see some merit in undertaking a short stint of Thai military service.

A word of warning though, if you decide to try your luck with the lottery, and pick the red ball, do note that you’ll have to serve to full conscription period, university degree or not.

4) Overseas military service

The conscription rules do state that comparable foreign military service does count towards reducing military obligations in Thailand. How this is administered is unclear, and probably comes down to being assessed a case by case basis.

5) Not moving back to Thailand until you are 30 years of age

All Thai males who report for conscription at after age 30 are automatically released from duty (technically this happens from the 1st of January in the year you turn 30). At this point, according to section 39 of the Military Service Act of 1977 (see here) once you register for military duty you will be put into the second division of the army reserves, which is an inactive register (ทหารกองหนุนชั้นที่ ๒).

As such, particularly if you are an overseas born Thai, it may be worthwhile staying unregistered in Thailand – no ID card and staying off the house book or tabien baan (ทะเบียนบ้าน) – and only formally registering yourself for Thai military service with the district office when you are past thirty years of age.

After age thirty, so long as you voluntarily report, you will be released from your obligation with a small payment of a fine at the police station. The fine for reporting late ranges between 100 and 300 baht – and a fine at the lower end of that range is usually granted for voluntary reporting.

Strictly speaking, the above process (though undertaken by many) leaves you still open to be considered an absconder in the event of being caught before you voluntarily report. For overseas born Thai dual citizens who want to avoid this small risk (anecdotally, we’ve never heard of any dual citizens being arrested), there is a ‘belt and braces’ approach to stay totally on the right side of the law.

For those who are born overseas, and who have never been registered on a house register or have gotten an ID card by the age of 17, you are able to send someone on your behalf to report. The rules allow for an adult representative to bring your Thai embassy issued birth certificate to the recruitment office. According to the rules, this must be done in the district office where your Thai mother is registered, but if your mother is not a Thai citizen, then you can do so in your fathers registered district.

By way of process, the  Sasadee office will begin the process register the enlistee via the Sor.Dor 44 form. Given the lack of house registration and ID card (which are on the list of required documents for conscription), the Sasadee will send your file to the district office head, who is empowered to delay the processing of the registration till such time as these documents are produced. Nevertheless a record will be kept of the attempted registration and a copy shall be given to the representative who reported on your behalf. Importantly, this record will be proof that an attempt to register has been made, and this is sufficient proof under law to prove that the enlistee did not attempt to abscond.

If I live overseas, can I travel back Thailand on a Thai passport if I haven’t reported?

Up until the late 1990’s, for those over the age of majority, having your military release papers was a requirement for being issued a Thai passport. Now, Thai passports are generally issued to anyone, except to those who have been charged by a court of absconding.

The real issue is whether you are normally resident in Thailand and thus, liable to report for conscription. This is a very grey area, but short trips are normally fine and many dual citizens travel to and from Thailand regularly.  But if you intend to visit for longer periods then the risk increases that you will be considered liable for duty so you should be aware of your responsibilities on this front if you move back to Thailand before age 30 for an extended period of time.

Chris Larkin

Long time resident of Bangkok. Married, three daughters. Managing director of CLC Asia (www.clc-asia.com). Lots of interesting knowledge and experience built up over time which I hope can be of use to people.

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212 Responses

  1. Anonymous says:

    Hi Chris,
    My son currently goes to an international school in Thailand, and has lived here for 5 years. He is a half-thai with a Thai and Indonesian passport, and he has a Tabien Baan registered to his name. If he chooses to not fully complete the ROTC program and goes overseas for University, will he still have to go through consription? Based on what I read from the article, if he lives overseas untiil the age of 30, will he be able to come back to Thailand and be released from getting drafted? Can his Tabien Baan and Thai ID which he currently has be unregistered?

    • Hi there,

      So yes, being over 30 automatically releases you from the obiligation, while partial completion means that his obligation is reduced by certain amounts if he is indeed conscripted.

      It is possible to move your name off the house hold registration to a central register. If you go through some of the answers I’ve given to others below you’ll see my suggestions on that. The issue will be however once he is off the normal house registration he won’t be able to renew his Passport or ID cards, so as such, I suggest getting those up to date before doing so.

  2. Regi says:

    I have am half Thai and half dutch and i have both passports, i have a Thai Bank account which i use pretty often, i was wondering as next year will be my duty year if there were any consequences for avoiding duty for my bank account

    Greetings,
    Regi

    • Hi Regi,

      I haven’t heard of any sanctions on bank accounts for avoiding military service.

      Regards
      Chris

      • Piphop Kongthaworn says:

        Hi Chris, I was just wondering if you could help me with some questions here.
        I am 21 of age, and I have been living in the UK for almost 11/12 years year and I have a thai passport, however since I’ve been living here I have mostly forgotten how to read and write thai and my mum is telling me that I should go to the thai army soon but by any chance do I need to go there and do it when I can barely understand thai but I can speak and understand little bit of thai and I’m about to make a British passport. Would I need to go to the army if I get a British passport here?

        • Hi there,

          Getting a british passport doesn’t reduce your obligation as far as Thai military service goes, but as I say in the article, not being resident in thailand makes it quite difficult for them to process you. As such, you effectively only on the radar if you are back living in Thailand. But if you have no plans on living in thailand until you are 30 then you’ll be fine.

          By all means get your UK citizenship. It’s an excellent citizenship to have.

  3. Aynomous says:

    Hi Chris

    I just want you to answer this one question for me please. Is a way of avoiding military service if I have already visited Thailand before the age of 30 and was born there?

    • Hi there,

      You don’t say where you are living and haven’t given any context to your situation. The main ways to bypass conscription – whether inside or outside of thailand – are already outlined in the article.

  4. Lasse says:

    Hi Chris,

    I recently had a son with my gf, who immigrated to my country from Thailand when she was a child. She is a Thai citizen.

    We are contemplating whether our son should get a Thai passport as well, but are concerned about him being drafted in the future if he were to visit Thailand after he turns 20.

    Of course he could just wait until he is 30, but we love visiting the country, and his grandmother is probably gonna move back to Thailand within the next couple of years, and we would love to visit her with him, in the future.

    Should this concern us, or is it unlikely that he would be identified and drafted during visits as a tourist in the future?

    I would love for him to have dual citizenship, since it gives him more options for the future.

    Best regards
    Lasse

    • Hi there, thanks for your question.

      So you and your son have plenty of options.

      First thing to understand – being on the house registration is the thing which puts you on the radar for conscription. So staying off it till 30 is the key.

      First and foremost, I’d recommend getting him a Thai birth certificate. It doesn’t put him on the radar of the military authorites given this doesn’t formally register him on a Thai house registration, but it does cement his entitlement to Thai citizenship. You’d be surprised how many emails I get from people in their 20s and 30s unable to take their rightful claim to Thai citizenship due to the death of a parent, lost documents of those parents, divorce and other things that just happen in life. So if I was in your shoes, at least I’d lock in his entitlement to that. See this article HERE on how you can do that.

      As an overseas born Thai, he’ll also be eligible for his first Thai passport via the embassy but subsequent passports will need him registered on the house registration. Again, good to have for later down the track, if only for evidence purposes with respect to his Thai citizenship.

      Similarly, for travel, he will have the opportunity to use his non-Thai passports for short visits. Longer visits, of course, a valid Thai passport will mean no entry restrictions. But if using that makes you nervous, then accessing the Thai Ancestry Visa (see HERE) will mean that he can stay longer term in Thailand on his foreign passport, with a minimum of fuss.

      Having all these documents (ie Thai BC and first Thai PP) will mean that when he turns 30 he can easily register for a Thai ID card with a minimum of fuss.

      Hope this has been of use.

      • Lasse says:

        Chris,

        Absolutely amazing, thank you so much. It all makes a lot of sense.

        Sounds like a Thai BC and perhaps a first PP is the way to go.

        Thank you so much.

        Lasse

    • Tyler says:

      Hi Chris
      I am a young student living in Canada with a duel citizenship. My mom is Thai and my dad is Canadian.

      My family visits Thailand about once a year but for the rest of the time I live in Canada.

      Because I don’t get much opportunity to speak it here, my Thai is not very good and I am unable to read it at all.

      I was also born with a birth defect where one of my hands has very small fingers that I cannot use very well meaning I really only have one good hand.

      Is there any way that I wouldn’t have to enlist. Until I turn 20 it isn’t much of a problem but once I do will I be unable to visit Thailand without being conscripted?

      • Hi Tyler,

        So you don’t mention where you are born, but if you were born in Canada (or anywhere outside of Thailand) then its unlikely that you are registered in the Tabieen Baan and have an ID card. Both needed to complete registration process for the lottery.

        If you are registered on the tabieen baan and have an ID card, you’ll probably receive a call up notice at some stage – but unless you have this notice, then visits to Thailand will be fine, and as I said in the article, your inability to attend the conscription date due to being overseas works in your favour.

        So all in all, short trips to Thailand (assuming you are using a Thai passport) will be fine. I can’t comment on how the military doctors will grade your hand issues, but as I also say in the article, your lack of Thai language ability doesn’t necessarily work in your favour either.

  5. Brendon says:

    Hi Chris, this has been an invaluable article but I’m wondering if you would have any advice for my stepsons situation? He has lived in New Zealand since the age of 9, He is still a Thai citizen and is on the house register in our village. Our family in the village was served with papers years ago and his grandmother told the officials at the time he would be coming back to participate in the draft.
    Needless to say he chose not return and has not been back to Thailand for over a decade, he is turning 30 this year and would like to return and visit with his son next year. He doesn’t have a current Thai passport or ID card and is planning on applying for NZ citizenship but would like to live In Thailand at some stage so won’t be giving up his Thai citizenship.
    My wife and I have been back to Thailand many times over the years and every time we go home receive a visit from the local police to ask about him and his whereabouts.
    Do you have any advise for what he should do if he tries to come to Thailand back next year, I’m not so worried about him being able to get back in the country but with the way we have been visited every time we have been back to our village I do worry about what may happen then.
    Appreciate any insight you may have, cheers.

    • Hi Brendon

      Glad the article has been useful.

      More questions than answers from my side unfortunately.

      You say that police have visited. Did they give a reason why? Was there an official warrant out for your son or were they checking up for other reasons?

      I think this should be established first. Also have one of the relatives have a chat with the recruiters if you are worried just to cross check his status. Anecdotally I’ve never heard of any repercussions especially when people have moved overseas but that is not to say there isn’t the possibility.

      So that would be my first level suggestion. Beyond that, if you find out there is no outstanding issue then your son would have no issue in coming back and getting his passport and ID sorted and then, post 30, clearing his military paperwork.

      Hopefully this helps
      Cheers
      Chris

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